Unrivaled Mountain Views & Fireside Magic: Your Escape Awaits!
The Cliff Hanger Lodge is a new cabin in Wears Valley, a perfect getaway in the mountains and a short drive to the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg & Townsend!
ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ᴏᴜʀ ᴄᴀʙɪɴ: ✔ ᴍᴀɪɴ ʟᴇᴠᴇʟ: Kitchen, Kitchen Island, Dining Area, Living Room w/ Fireplace, Main Deck w/ Fireplace, 2 King Suites ✔ ʟᴏᴡᴇʀ ʟᴇᴠᴇʟ: Game Room w/ Pool table, Laundry Room, Utility Room, Lower Deck w/ Hot Tub, 2 King Suites
You’ll wake up to the most amazing mountain views from every bedroom window, and you’ll have two decks to choose from to enjoy the sunrise and the fresh air and to relax in the hot tub. You’ll love the fully stocked kitchen & the large charcoal grill! High speed internet (1 gig), free Wi-Fi & great cell signal!
4 ᴋɪɴɢ ʙᴇᴅʀᴏᴏᴍ ꜱᴜɪᴛᴇꜱ: There are two bedroom suites on the main level to the right and to the left of the kitchen, dining and living room area. The other two suites are downstairs or in the basement to the right and left of the game room. Each bedroom suite has a mountain view, a Roku Smart TV, a king bed with extra blankets, 2 luggage racks, a closet for your belongings, and a full bathroom, each with lots of towels and hand soap, and a hair dryer. You’ll feel pampered and relaxed in these cozy, yet spacious rooms.
Each Bedroom Suite boasts: ➥ 1 king bed ➥ 2 night stands with lamps ➥ 1 closet ➥ 2 luggage racks ➥ 1 dresser ➥ 1 43-inch Roku TV ➥ linens, bath towels, extra blankets provided ➥ 1 ensuite full bathroom, with tub-shower combo, vanity, hair dryer. ➥ Did we mention mountain views?!
ʙᴇᴀᴜᴛɪꜰᴜʟ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴏɴ ꜱᴩᴀᴄᴇꜱ: The main level has the living room with a coffee table and comfortable seating with a 55-inch Roku TV and a fireplace. We hope you’ll enjoy the custom-made furniture throughout the cabin. This is the perfect place to curl up with a book or watch a movie. Also on the main level is the kitchen with an island that can seat 4 and the dining area with a table for 8. You’ll love the fully stocked kitchen with all the appliances and utensils you need to prepare delicious meals in the cabin.
ᴏᴜᴛᴅᴏᴏʀ ꜱᴩᴀᴄᴇꜱ: ➥ Parking: Easy, flat, paved driveway enough to fit up to 3 vehicles ➥ Large park style charcoal grill to the left of the front door, near the driveway. Charcoal not provided. ➥ Upper back deck with gas fireplace, coffee table, small tables, bench and chairs, rocking chairs ➥ Lower back deck with 4-person hot tub (EcoSpa E4) and rocking chairs and small tables.
Appliances & utensils available: ➥ Electric stove and oven ➥ Microwave ➥ Refrigerator ➥ Dishwasher ➥ Keurig duo ➥ 6 qt Instant Pot Duo ➥ crockpot ➥ electric kettle ➥ toaster ➥ blender ➥ plenty of pans, pots, cookie sheets, bowls, and dishes for family cooking.
The main level deck has a fireplace to keep you warm and cozy during the cold fall and winter nights, a coffee table and comfortable seating to enjoy your coffee or tea in the morning. There are plenty of rocking chairs to cozy up and enjoy the scenery.
The lower level has a game room with a pool table, a 75-inch smart TV, and plenty of board and card games for endless entertainment. You’ll have a blast playing games with your friends and family. Also available: more cozy seating to enjoy watching TV: a love seat, a bench, whisky barrel table and 4 chairs, 2 bean bag chairs. The cabin also has a laundry room with full size washer and dryer, with everything you need to keep your clothes fresh and clean, as well as an iron and ironing board. The lower deck, just off the game room has a 4-person hot tub (EcoSpa E4) and more rocking chairs and seating to relax and unwind. A large park style charcoal grill with cover is available outside. Charcoal is not provided.
➥ Starter pack of supplies: Our cleaning company provides linen, bath towels, and a starter pack of supplies: 2 rolls of toilet paper per bathroom, small bar of soap, small shampoo for each bathroom, kitchen towels, kitchen sponge, one roll of paper towels, small liquid dishwashing soap, 2 dishwasher pods, ground coffee pack, one small laundry packet, a few trash bags. Additionally, we supply the cabin with kitchen soap, bath soaps, large containers of laundry detergent, dishwasher pods, large rolls of aluminum foil and plastic wrap, trash bags, toilet paper, some cleaning supplies. We do not supply charcoal or beach towels for the hot tub. Please be prepared to buy extras of the supplies mentioned and supplies that are not mentioned above.
ɪᴍᴩᴏʀᴛᴀɴᴛ ɴᴏᴛᴇꜱ: We want to be upfront about a few things: ⮕ The gas fireplaces will be off after mid April until mid to late October. ⮕ Our cabin is located in the newest section of the Homestead East subdivision in Wears Valley and a close landmark is The Preserve Resort in Sevierville, TN. Our cabin is 0.5 mile east of the resort and at the same elevation. 4WD / AWD vehicles may be required to reach the cabin during winter weather. The views along the way and at the very top are worth the drive! ⮕ Black bear sightings in our neighborhood and street daily. Lock vehicle doors and windows, cabin door and windows at all times. Bag trash and dispose of it only in the bear proof trash bins available near the cabin. Supervise small children at all times. ⮕ 🆂🅴🅲🆄🆁🅸🆃🆈 🅲🅰🅼🅴🆁🅰: For your safety and ours, there are 3 security cameras on the property, to the right of the front door and 2 over the top and bottom decks double doors, with no view of the hot tub, for your privacy. ⮕ 🅸🅳: The minimum age requirement for the primary renter is 25 and must be present during the entire stay. No third party bookings are allowed. Government issued IDs may be required by the hosts from every guest before check-in to verify the age requirement. ⮕ Maximum 4 adults in the hot tub and / or up to 1000 lbs total weight on the lower deck. We want to be extra cautious not to exceed maximum deck weight capacity.
It's very important to us to be respectful to our neighbors and not host any disruptive parties and to be able to keep the cabin allergy-friendly for ourselves and future guests.
🅷🅾🆄🆂🅴 🆁🆄🅻🅴🆂 𝗤𝘂𝗶𝗲𝘁 𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝟭𝟬:𝟬𝟬 𝗽𝗺 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝟵:𝟬𝟬 𝗮𝗺 ✖ No Smoking, Vaping, Drugs ✖ No Pets ✖ No Parties or Events
Accommodatie-voorzieningen
Zwembad/spa
Bubbelbad
Internet
Beschikbaar in de boshut: gratis wifi
Parkeren en vervoer
Parkeerplekken ter plaatse
Keuken
Afwasmachine
Blender
Broodrooster
Elektrische waterkoker
IJsmachine
Keukeneiland
Keukenpapier
Koelkast
Koffiezetapparaat/waterkoker
Kookgerei, borden en bestek
Kookplaat
Microgolfoven
Oven
Eetopties
Eettafel
Slaapkamers
4 slaapkamers
Beddengoed inbegrepen
Badkamer
4 badkamers
Bad of douche
Haardroger
Handdoeken inbegrepen
Shampoo
Toiletpapier
Zeep
Woonruimtes
Eettafel
Open haard
Entertainment
Smart-tv
Spellen
Buiten
Balkon
Houtskoolbarbecue
Wasvoorzieningen
Wasmachine
Wasserette
Comfort
Airconditioning
Verwarming
Huisdieren
Geen huisdieren toegelaten
Toegankelijkheidsvoorzieningen
Rookvrije accommodatie
Diensten en faciliteiten
Strijkijzer/strijkplank
Uitgelichte locatiekenmerken
Dicht bij een dierentuin
Dicht bij een outletcentrum
In de bergen
Dingen om te doen
Biljart/pooltafel
Spelletjesruimte
Bergbeklimmen in de buurt
Golfbaan in de buurt
Mountainbiken in de buurt
Natuurwandelingen in de buurt
Paardrijden in de buurt
Pretpark in de buurt
Rotsklimmen in de buurt
Vismogelijkheid in de buurt
Vogelspotten in de buurt
Wandel-/fietsroutes in de buurt
Watertuben in de buurt
Zwemmogelijkheid in de buurt
Veiligheidsvoorzieningen
Koolmonoxidemelder (de eigenaar heeft aangegeven dat er een koolmonoxidemelder aanwezig is in de accommodatie)
Rookmelder (de eigenaar heeft aangegeven dat er een rookmelder aanwezig is in de accommodatie)
EHBO-doos
Brandblusser
Veiligheidsslot
Algemeen
Unitgrootte: 204 vierkante meter
Gelijkaardige accommodaties
UndHrvstMoon: Pool, HotTub, Wifi, Theater, Games, Pets, OutdoorFireplace
Sevierville
UndHrvstMoon: Pool, HotTub, Wifi, Theater, Games, Pets, OutdoorFireplace
In- en uitchecken zonder direct persoonlijk contact
Uitchecken
Uitchecken voor 10.00 uur
Contactloos uitchecken
Speciale incheckinstructies
Je ontvangt een e-mail van de eigenaar met instructies over het in- en uitchecken
De informatie die de accommodatie verstrekt, is mogelijk vertaald met automatische vertaaltools
Huisregels
We STRICTLY enforce
❌ No Smoking
❌ No Pets rules. We have severe allergy issues and we need to keep the cabin allergy friendly for us and guests.
❌ No Parties.
🤫 Quiet Hours between 10:00pm and 9:00am. It's important to us to be respectful to our neighbors and not host any disruptive parties.
Huisdieren
Geen huisdieren toegelaten
Kinderen en extra bedden
Kinderen zijn welkom.
Opmerking van de gastheer/-vrouw: Steep backyard, high retaining walls near parking
Evenementen
No events allowed
Roken
Smoking is not permitted
Belangrijke informatie
Algemene info
Deze accommodatie wordt beheerd door een particuliere eigenaar, d.w.z. een persoon die niet handelt vanuit zijn/haar vakgebied, bedrijf of beroep. De consumentenwetgeving van de EU, met inbegrip van het herroepingsrecht, is niet van toepassing op je boeking. Voor je boeking geldt het annuleringsbeleid van de particuliere eigenaar.
Afhankelijk van het accommodatiebeleid kan voor extra personen een toeslag worden aangerekend.
Tijdens het inchecken dien je in het geval van incidentele kosten mogelijk een geldig identiteitsbewijs voor te leggen en een borgsom in contanten, per bankkaart of kredietkaart te betalen.
Speciale verzoeken kunnen, indien mogelijk, bij check-in worden ingewilligd. Hiervoor kunnen extra kosten worden aangerekend. Speciale verzoeken kunnen niet worden gegarandeerd.
Feesten of groepsevenementen ter plaatse zijn ten strengste verboden
De eigenaar heeft aangegeven dat er een koolmonoxidemelder aanwezig is in de accommodatie.
De eigenaar heeft aangegeven dat er een rookmelder aanwezig is in de accommodatie.
De accommodatie beschikt over de volgende veiligheidsvoorzieningen: een brandblusapparaat, een EHBO-koffer en een veiligheidsslot
Deze accommodatie wordt beheerd via onze partner, Vrbo. Je ontvangt een e-mail van Vrbo met een link naar een Vrbo-account, waarmee je je boeking kunt aanpassen of annuleren.
Over deze buurt
dit huisje ligt nabij pretparken en vlak bij een waterpark in Sevierville. Island at Pigeon Forge en Christmas Place zijn enkele plekken die je als fervent shopper niet mag overslaan. Als je liever de natuur intrekt, kan dat bij Great Smoky Mountains National Park en Ripken Experience - Pigeon Forge. Ober Gatlinburg Ski Resort and Amusement Park en Dollywood mag je zeker niet missen. Kies voor waterpret zoals watertuben of vissen of beleef avonturen zoals mountainbiken en wandelen. Bekijk onze reisgids voor Sevierville
Alcoa - Luchthaven Knoxville (TYS) - 51 min. rijden
Restaurants
Sloppy Hog Saloon
13 min. rijden
Peaceful Side Social
21 min. rijden
The Townsend Abbey
20 min. rijden
Burgermaster Drive-in
21 min. rijden
The Heavenly Roast
12 min. rijden
Veelgestelde vragen
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Hoe laat kan ik bij Unrivaled Mountain Views & Fireside Magic: Your Escape Awaits! inchecken?
Inchecken is mogelijk vanaf 16.00 uur.
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Je dient om uiterlijk 10.00 uur uit te checken.
Waar staat Unrivaled Mountain Views & Fireside Magic: Your Escape Awaits!?
Dit huisje ligt in de bergen, op 10 km afstand van Next To Heaven, Great Smoky Mountains National Park en Metcalf Bottoms. Ook Townsend Visitor Center en Great Smoky Mountains Heritage Center liggen op 15 km afstand.
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Beoordelingen
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Devon T.
13 jul 2026
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Met family from Florida, the cabin was exactly as described and even better than we imagined.
6 nachten verbleven in juli 2026
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Brenda W.
4 jul 2026
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
We enjoyed watching the bears off of the back deck of the cabin. The view is outstanding as well.
7 nachten verbleven in juni 2026
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
sandra c.
19 apr 2026
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Beautiful views and gorgeous cabin. Very clean and well appointed. Kitchen had all the basics and then some.
7 nachten verbleven in april 2026
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Corinne W.
10 mei 2026
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Phenomenal rental! Our family loved the space it provided to spread out on both decks, game area was great, views were amazing especially the sunrises! It was wonderful all four couples having their own bathroom and bedroom as well. Quick communication when needed with the hosts, close to so many attractions, we didn’t want to leave, would definitely stay again!
6 nachten verbleven in mei 2026
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Mary Ellen R.
30 nov 2025
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
The hosts were helpful & welcoming. The cabin's amenties were excellent. Parking was great. 5 adults and 2 children had an amazing vacation.
7 nachten verbleven in november 2025
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Jamie F.
21 mei 2026
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
The hosts were amazing, the check-in and checkout was seamless. The communication with the hosts was instant. The cabin was beautiful just as described. Our group had an awesome time and will definitely book again in the future if this becomes an annual event. Also nice touch having that black bear in the middle of the road on our way up the mountain. That was amazing to see.
5 nachten verbleven in mei 2026
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Thomas B.
24 dec 2025
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Everything was absolutely great! The cabin, the amenities, and the view! The owners obviously take great pride in their place and it allowed us to really enjoy it. We wish we could have stayed longer, but maybe another time.
4 nachten verbleven in december 2025
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Andrew K.
23 jun 2024
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Family guys trip
It was a great location and beautiful home! Perfect for us.
4 nachten verbleven in juni 2024
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Anthony G.
27 jun 2025
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
TOW
Very nice cabin. Would recommend.
6 nachten verbleven in juni 2025
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Ryan W.
20 okt 2025
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Great cabin! What an awesome view to wake up and watch the sun rise! Loved how clean everything was. Thank you so much for sharing your beautiful cabin!
3 nachten verbleven in oktober 2025
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Vicki H.
25 sep 2025
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
We got everything we wanted in the cabin, the beautiful view and the quiet time. Wish we could have stayed longer! The host is very nice and easy to contact if needed.
3 nachten verbleven in september 2025
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Geverifieerde reiziger
9 nov 2023
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Awesome family vacation
We loved our stay in this beautiful mountain cabin! It had everything we needed for 8 people for a week. It was perfect!
7 nachten verbleven in oktober 2023
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Jenny H.
10 nov 2025
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
If I could give this cabin 10 stars instead of 5 I would! It was spotless, comfy beds, fabulous layout, amazingly stocked kitchen, but that view!!!!!!!! It was gorgeous! The fireplace and wonderful seating on the porch looking out over the mountains is unbeatable to anywhere we have ever stayed in the mountains!
2 nachten verbleven in november 2025
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Les D.
6 mrt 2025
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Excellent
Lovely Cabin. It has everything you need plus more. The owners were very responsive and helpful.
3 nachten verbleven in maart 2025
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Rachel M.
8 jul 2024
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Great spot with great vistas!
Such a fun spot for a family vacation! Love the closeness to the Smokies and Townsend, and a beautiful property! Hosts were very communicative and the home was spotless (cleanest rental we’ve ever had). We will be back!
2 nachten verbleven in juli 2024
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Erica D.
6 okt 2025
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Our stay was very nice! The cabin was cozy, clean and quiet. We had everything we needed provided by the host. The cabin is beautiful inside and out!! We definitely recommend booking here again. The views are amazing and our stay was fantastic! Big thank you to Juliana and Thomas for being great hosts! We truly appreciate you guys for making our stay an enjoyable experience!
4 nachten verbleven in oktober 2025
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Guru D.
10 jul 2025
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Gatlinburg Vacation.
Place was very clean. Had no issue getting into the property and neighbors were quite and did not hear any late-night parties going on.I would recommend the place to my family and friends in the future.
2 nachten verbleven in juni 2025
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Marco V.
15 apr 2024
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
MPV
Great property and views! Fully stocked- Everything as advertised in listing. Thank You for the wonderful week!
7 nachten verbleven in april 2024
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
McKenzie H.
13 okt 2023
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Beautiful Cabin with Amazing Views!
We absolutely loved our stay - the cabin was incredibly clean and the hosts were great, always responding quickly to any questions. We loved the views and the outdoor fireplace. The location is great, as it's not in the middle of all the Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge crowds. We will be back!
3 nachten verbleven in oktober 2023
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Jason and Margo S.
13 nov 2024
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Beautiful views, beautiful home
Annual girls’ weekend. We couldn’t have asked for more! The house was spacious, clean, and perfect for our needs. The hosts were very communicative. We’ve already talked about planning a return trip next year:)
3 nachten verbleven in november 2024
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Angela C.
27 aug 2024
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Gorgeous home and awesome views
Home was as described in the listing. Had everything we needed and then some it was perfect for our group (4 couples). Host
was very quick to answer any questions. Beautiful mountain views. Definitely recommend
4 nachten verbleven in augustus 2024
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Auntie Shirley
29 dec 2024
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Cliff Hanger Birthday Celebration
My family loved our stay. The place was decorated for the holiday which made our trip even more special. The place is clean and organized. Having 4 King suites is hard to find. Everyone had their own private space. Love the messages we had with the owners. Highly recommend.
3 nachten verbleven in december 2024
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Jeremy C.
19 mei 2025
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Can I stay forever?
This cabin was phenomenal! The 4 King bedrooms, each with their own bathrooms and tvs worked perfect for our family. The pool table and the huge common area ( and huge tv) was awesome. The view? We have visited this area many times (10) and this was by far the best view we have ever had. Already planning on when we can return.
4 nachten verbleven in mei 2025
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Bryan W.
13 okt 2025
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Beautiful cabin, great amenities, amazing views, and the hosts were super nice. We stayed and cooked in the cabin for a long weekend and it was perfect for that. Will be coming back.Only downside to the cabin was ongoing construction on some neighboring cabins, which continued into the weekend. Probably not a long term problem but buzzsaws and nail guns weren't the sounds we were hoping for.
3 nachten verbleven in september 2025
Geverifieerde beoordeling
10/10 – Voortreffelijk
Sheila C.
15 okt 2023
Positief: Netheid, inchecken, communicatie, locatie en accuraatheid advertentie
Breathtaking view!!
The view is breathtaking. The cabin is very well appointed and has so many extras that made our stay so special. The cabin and all interior/exterior features are spotless and look new. The owner's are very quick to respond. It could not have been any better!